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Notes on Squirrel's talk: http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2011/12/10/the-5-whysroot-cause-analysis-douglas-squirrel/
Notes on Squirrel's talk: http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2011/12/10/the-5-whysroot-cause-analysis-douglas-squirrel/
Notes from John Bradshaw:
Normal accidents:
·        3 Mile Island Accident - Blamed Operators
·        Any system can and will fail, and you should plan for it to fail
·        2 Axis graph
o    Complexity -> Simple
o    Loose Coupling -> Tight Coupling
o    Complex & Tightly Coupled = Accident
·        Complex system that is Loosely coupled is the CITCON open space set up evening
o    We did not all rush to get food and beer
·        E.g had there been a Lion in there, 1 person could have warned rest
·        Chance to warn of danger
·        Simple but tightly coupled = Dam
o    Accident is water gets through the damn
o    Anything goes wrong with dam e.g. hole, no chance to resolve
o    Simple to reason about, wall of rock with a hole in
o    But is high risk
·        In nuclear plant accident, cooling system near radioactive rods
o    Operators can see there was a leak, but no context e.g. they can see the leak is leaking near/into the radioactive rod storage which would lead to an accident
·        Book to Read: Normal Accidents by Perrow
·        Are micro services tightly coupled and complex?
o    Depends
o    It's down to design and implementation
·        Always strive to be in the bottom right corner of the graph, low complexity loosely coupled
·        How do people plan for failure?
o    Rob - We go through a certification process to get into Retail
·        Each system that could fail is tested, e.g. chaos monkey style someone will manually go take down services
·        Internal team will run same tests internally before handing over to external certification team
How do you verify or even test your logging? Instance of a service that logged every time on failure, in a tight loop and filled the disks leading to further failure = Simple Tightly Coupled System
Root Cause Analysis
Scenario:  Database deliberately down for maintenance. Instance of a service that logged every time on failure connecting to database, in a tight loop and filled the disks leading to further failure
·        Basic principals
o    Everybody who was affected comes to the meeting
·        To identity cultural or people problems
·        Not allowed to place blame
·        Ask/poll everyone what was the problem
§  Customer:
·        No system, was down, can't log on
§  Operations:
·        Confused by phone call
§  Customer Service:
·        Angry calls from customers, did not know what was going on
§  Developer:
·        Database down, no disk space
·        Then ask why:
§  Customer:
§  Operations:
§  Customer Service:
§  Developer:
·        Why: Maintenance on database, database down
·        Why: Analysed log files, saw huge files, checked code,  logged with no delay
·        Why: Developer skills lacking
·        Why: No code review/inspection
·        Why: Test for this logging case lacking
·        When QA tested database was running
·        QA too busy to investigate database failures cases
·        No new blood in organisation
·        QA assigned/overbooked to too many projects
·        Action: Maintenance on DB, have redundant database to switch to
·        Action: QA involved earlier
§  Actions must be assigned and completed with a timeframe e.g. 1 week
§  When you hit that uncomfortable silence half way down, keep pushing
·        The root cause of failure is always the culture in an organisation
o    It’s always about people e.g.
·        The developer adding no delay to logging
·        Lack of testing
·        Create a RCA timeline of failure
o    At what time did system go down
o    At what time did customers complain
o    At what time did developers react
o    At what time was the system back up
o    Etc
·        Do as much technical investigation as possible before the RCA meeting
o    Eg this was the problem
o    We had these tests
·        But we didn’t have one for this scenario

Revision as of 02:54, 21 September 2014

Normal Accidents book: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/6596.html

Systems are categorized by Interactions that are Simple vs Complex, and Tightly Coupled vs Loosely Coupled.

There are a few different versions of the quadrant: http://paei.wdfiles.com/local--files/perrow-charles-normal-accident-theory/PAEI_043_Perrow_Normal_Accident_Theory.gif https://www.flickr.com/photos/metanick/139214026/ http://media.peakprosperity.com/images/3-Perrow-from-Accidents-Normal.png

Douglas Squirrel talking about root-cause analysis: https://skillsmatter.com/skillscasts/1986-talk-by-squirrel

Notes on Squirrel's talk: http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2011/12/10/the-5-whysroot-cause-analysis-douglas-squirrel/

Notes from John Bradshaw:

Normal accidents: · 3 Mile Island Accident - Blamed Operators · Any system can and will fail, and you should plan for it to fail · 2 Axis graph o Complexity -> Simple o Loose Coupling -> Tight Coupling o Complex & Tightly Coupled = Accident · Complex system that is Loosely coupled is the CITCON open space set up evening o We did not all rush to get food and beer · E.g had there been a Lion in there, 1 person could have warned rest · Chance to warn of danger · Simple but tightly coupled = Dam o Accident is water gets through the damn o Anything goes wrong with dam e.g. hole, no chance to resolve o Simple to reason about, wall of rock with a hole in o But is high risk · In nuclear plant accident, cooling system near radioactive rods o Operators can see there was a leak, but no context e.g. they can see the leak is leaking near/into the radioactive rod storage which would lead to an accident · Book to Read: Normal Accidents by Perrow · Are micro services tightly coupled and complex? o Depends o It's down to design and implementation · Always strive to be in the bottom right corner of the graph, low complexity loosely coupled · How do people plan for failure? o Rob - We go through a certification process to get into Retail · Each system that could fail is tested, e.g. chaos monkey style someone will manually go take down services · Internal team will run same tests internally before handing over to external certification team

How do you verify or even test your logging? Instance of a service that logged every time on failure, in a tight loop and filled the disks leading to further failure = Simple Tightly Coupled System


Root Cause Analysis

Scenario: Database deliberately down for maintenance. Instance of a service that logged every time on failure connecting to database, in a tight loop and filled the disks leading to further failure

· Basic principals o Everybody who was affected comes to the meeting · To identity cultural or people problems · Not allowed to place blame · Ask/poll everyone what was the problem § Customer: · No system, was down, can't log on § Operations: · Confused by phone call § Customer Service: · Angry calls from customers, did not know what was going on § Developer: · Database down, no disk space · Then ask why: § Customer: § Operations: § Customer Service: § Developer: · Why: Maintenance on database, database down · Why: Analysed log files, saw huge files, checked code, logged with no delay · Why: Developer skills lacking · Why: No code review/inspection · Why: Test for this logging case lacking · When QA tested database was running · QA too busy to investigate database failures cases · No new blood in organisation · QA assigned/overbooked to too many projects · Action: Maintenance on DB, have redundant database to switch to · Action: QA involved earlier

§ Actions must be assigned and completed with a timeframe e.g. 1 week § When you hit that uncomfortable silence half way down, keep pushing



· The root cause of failure is always the culture in an organisation o It’s always about people e.g. · The developer adding no delay to logging · Lack of testing · Create a RCA timeline of failure o At what time did system go down o At what time did customers complain o At what time did developers react o At what time was the system back up o Etc · Do as much technical investigation as possible before the RCA meeting o Eg this was the problem o We had these tests · But we didn’t have one for this scenario